
So I’d like to believe that the leadership research and book, the Dare To Lead book, were good ideas that I found it impossible to walk away from. I just could not walk away.īB: It’s funny that I just interviewed Guy Raz about his book and his podcast, How I Built This, and I interviewed him for this podcast series, and he talks about how good ideas are really hard to find and even harder to walk away from once you find them. And I started to see so many patterns and themes around leadership, leaders who were effective, leadership that was ineffective, leaders that had huge impact and had cultures of deep caring and connection, leaders who were abusive. That qualitative researcher in me that just sees patterns and repeats of things over and over, regardless of how different organizations are. I find it to be one of the greatest challenges of my life, and during those same 10 years, these past 10 years where I’ve been coming into this new role, I was also spending 90% of my time in organizations working with leaders, and y’all know me when I’m in an organization, talking to people, I cannot turn off my inner pattern hunter. Over the past decade, I have made this, I will tell you, super weird transition from being a research professor to being a research professor and a founder and CEO of an organization, and I can tell you right now, the first very difficult, very hard, humbling lesson that I have learned is studying leadership is way easier than leading.īB: So I have become a leader. So I’m going to start with my “why” around leadership, a little nod to my friend Simon Sinek, who will be on this podcast, and we’ll talk to him about his work.īB: So for me, my “why” for studying leadership is pretty straight forward, I wanted to be… and I still want to be, a better leader. I thought I’d share what’s working as I try to put these learnings into practice, where I’m struggling, and what we need to learn more about. We’re in our 10th year of a study on leadership.

For this first episode, I thought I would share with you what I’ve learned about courageous leadership. This is dream come true territory for me, and could it get any better? If you’re thinking, “Hey, what’s that snappy little ditty that I’m listening to? I like this music.” Wait until you hear at the end of the podcast, this is music by the Houston band The Suffers, and the song is called Take Me to the Good Times, and I need you to go buy it, download it, and dance in your kitchen with your socks on, and I just… To The Suffers, my Houston neighbors, thank you so much for letting us use this in the Dare to Lead podcast because this is the vibe for this podcast, like this is it.īB: So grateful for that, and I’m just excited that you’re here.

I’m Brené Brown, and welcome to the very first episode of the Dare to Lead podcast.
